This is the bill forty and we here at the Paris hotel in Las Vegas on our guests tonight. For a special editorial was John Ratzenberger. John is well known for his executive produces -- on. Made in America which many of us have seen on the Travel Channel and I'm not sure let's elect Obama. No through these particular from the bureau of five years and the next step what that I wanna reconfigure -- an actual -- Include children. Somehow within -- show -- we fracturing go to it is one of the dangers are facing we've talked about this. A lot is the fact that kids. Don't work with their hands -- -- you don't -- -- that's -- we started this foundation nuts -- -- thing objects found a couple years ago. -- -- here on the Internet a year to -- it's nuts and -- foundation dot org. So I wanted to bring kids into NC but here's how bulldozers. It's trigger him that there. You know fortunately there troopers who whatever -- because. There's a lot of satisfaction. -- kids who are losing -- today and they don't realise this so -- satisfaction actually building something. That you -- -- them I mean that. This is who I was self esteem that just at a workshop from Montana. We had kids commitments. When it was -- well known people. And acumen for good part of his sanity. And we would rounded people who know them -- a lot of new things some accused -- wrongly. The first time in her home to needs them. Who just have -- -- wish fulfillment. Or both substance and I'm told him we're partners who. So it's it's something that we've been used to grown up as kids we just naturally. Pass muster -- -- house went on the -- Arafat's script would. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- So it's almost like a lost art. So that's -- we exists. But your promises that if we -- interest them and doing things with their hands -- they'll appreciate the fact that things have been -- in many many of them might then consider manufacturing jobs in manufacturing. As a future. -- -- -- -- As a future I don't think. That there will be manufacturing and we don't get children back to tinker you've identified this is the tsunami of a -- -- in just an industrial tsunami heading away. But also. Let you know don't. Overlook the fact that every single industry that is no exception for -- school every single industry started. When one person inventing one thing. There's no exception. And every single one of those people that invented that one thing that started all these industries. Started his children tinkering. Nobody came too late life it's about wonder how this screwdriver works. Rockets. Just tinkering and -- around -- building managing and innovating inventing. And that's where inventors to. You'll get -- college. But surely all the shows you did for made in America you've been and how many plants in the US overthrew him. Up a whole range of -- you've seen everything from server to the metal products to. I don't know what -- sent bulldozers and I remember the start -- for example are very clearly you know. But in those plants was it when you -- to -- work is did you did you sense any pride in what they were doing and talk constantly you know but what about the children we're really trying to pass them on to the children that. This is something you can do with your hands and -- -- governor they're afraid -- It won't be either for that -- Because he's he was happening on the country what people don't realize especially guidance counselors -- -- all these factors are went into -- the people the pride. That it's clean it's clean war. It'll come home when your clothes burned to ripped her lungs full of you know dust. All these factories are great places to do so and then the other benefits of the -- but -- companies now. That are turning down jobs turning them orders because they don't have the people who worked in the factories to make whatever -- -- shipper. Propeller for an average of whatever it is foundries. The works there. They have to turn it down because these don't -- -- people. We're magazine. -- in the industrial. Community trying to promote places for industrial applications. We're we're concerned right now -- -- lack of interest in. Weldon has as the technology and welding and -- as a livelihood for people so we're gonna have a major campaign in the magazine next year to try and interest people. In jobs and welding and manufacture. We're small. -- -- 103 countries in the world but we're basically US magazine. We know that we have to many voices speaking on what our manufacturing protecting manufacturing and making manufacturing jobs attractive. Did you suggest for us something that we can do with your foundational with the from his foundation to help -- sort of coordinate our efforts overall speaking with one voice. Sure I think the best thing to -- is is organize. A -- meeting -- a smaller room looking to do that beginning in December. As the beginning of maybe several more we'll get together with a rollodexes and say okay. Who. Who's the person to bring in for this and onto or no in the media would you know and you do well fuel fabrication world. And and and start to bring some serious pressure on. The politicians and local school system or just. -- would have singers just do it ourselves. The -- -- media campaign causing -- -- that's a very powerful tools rooms and and to go on TV whatever shows you go to. Nuts and -- dot TV. And that's who shows so we can actually constructed network that there could be just showed just well. We've just -- -- shows just house framing. Talk of people do it -- they do it. What their lives -- like interviewing them so your world what do you do well it's go home to his house that's a nice house. Efficient vote you know parked outside nice card -- family so people get the idea that this is a viable. Profession that you can be -- and even drive ressam's bill that. All of my dad built that there's a lot of pride them anyway -- what what statistic murdered was red. That in four years there's going to be vacancies for over half a million welders. In the United States. Believe photo meeting today said he could put twenty welders on the big moment home loan from Pretoria -- to work tomorrow can't find anything. So when people realize you know hopefully it will be -- paper that's our jobs we look through all those bridges that are rusting away look underneath them. Is from his got a -- that -- or replace those standards or welders. Welding. And you certainly and electricians. Everybody else but I don't care if you have the money to build it took to pay for the of the infrastructure repairs the fact that you have people. Thank you sir thank you pleasure talking to you to thank you and thank you. -- gulf or via signing off from the Paris hotel left very pleasant discussion -- John Ratzenberger who didn't want me to remind people that he's. One of the stars of that Greek television I don't access that's that's your presumption are very proud of that you should be. Real pleasure to me -- these tags they care.